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Win32 API Declares   -   Berg, Heath
  robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Jeffrey Rosen
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Jan Erik Moström <
    Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Stefan Pantke
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   dda
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Keith Hutchison
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Jeffrey Rosen
    Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Jan Erik Moström <
     Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Joseph J. Strout
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Stefan Pantke
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Emile Schwarz
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Joseph J. Strout
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Jeffrey Rosen
   Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   Emile Schwarz
    Re: robust HTTP server in RB?   -   P. Sanders
   Re: Default New Project   -   Craig A. Finseth

robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 12:11 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 04:11:51 -0700)
From: Jeffrey Rosen
I recently purchased a dedicated server and am working on creating a
framework for web applications (I can't wait for swordfish.) I have
decided that the best way to do this is to roll my own HTTP server.
Before I reinvent the wheel, I would like to check if anyone has
written a > 100 line server that I might use.
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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 23.03.01 14:27 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:18:39 +0200)
From: Jan Erik Moström <
Jeffrey Rosen <<email address removed>> 2005-08-02 13:11:

> I recently purchased a dedicated server and am working on creating a
> framework for web applications (I can't wait for swordfish.) I have
> decided that the best way to do this is to roll my own HTTP server.
> Before I reinvent the wheel, I would like to check if anyone has
> written a > 100 line server that I might use.

This might be a stupid question but why not use something like Zope (or
perhaps Django) and build the web applications around that platform?

jem

Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 13:31 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:31:46 +0200)
From: Stefan Pantke

Am 02.08.2005 um 13:18 schrieb Jan Erik Moström:

> Jeffrey Rosen <<email address removed>> 2005-08-02 13:11:
>
>> I recently purchased a dedicated server and am working on creating a
>> framework for web applications (I can't wait for swordfish.) I have
>> decided that the best way to do this is to roll my own HTTP server.
>> Before I reinvent the wheel, I would like to check if anyone has
>> written a > 100 line server that I might use.
>>
> This might be a stupid question but why not use something like Zope
> (or
> perhaps Django) and build the web applications around that platform?

Definitely not stupid. In my case, I developed a RB web server
used in http://www.turingart.com/abforweb_lan__en.htm for these
reasons:

- No other infrastructure required
- No configuration required
- No special account required
- No special configuration required

The user simply starts 'AB for Web' and the server is up
and running.

Most CMS systems aren't for free in terms of setup time
or setup knowledge.

One notable exception is http://www.webedition.de/en/ ,
which installation is very simple. Moreover, the
developers of WebEdition provided MAMP for free -
a single app, which bundles Apache, MySQL, PHP,
eAccelerator and Zend Accelerator. One click and all
is running. Doesn't change the default OS X installation.

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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 12:32 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:32:09 +0200)
From: dda
There's Arbee, which hasn't been developped since... a while. Will and
Seth are the project owners.
http://realopen.org/projects/arbee/

Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 12:56 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 21:56:47 +1000)
From: Keith Hutchison
There's Arbee, which hasn't been developped since... a while. Will and
Seth are the project owners.
http://realopen.org/projects/arbee/

Still makes me feel proud ...

Keith Hutchison
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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 12:57 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 04:57:15 -0700)
From: Jeffrey Rosen
Because I am extremeley experienced in REALbasic and have never heard
of Zope or Django.

I doubt that I will be able to be more productive than I am in
REALbasic. In just an hour of work, I have already created an
automated PayPal registration emailer and am almost done with my web
AIM client.

I would like to see Zope or Django do that. (Of course, I can't judge
them - I don't even see Django on Google.)

-jeff

On 8/2/05, Jan Erik Moström <<email address removed>> wrote:
> Jeffrey Rosen <<email address removed>> 2005-08-02 13:11:
>
> > I recently purchased a dedicated server and am working on creating a
> > framework for web applications (I can't wait for swordfish.) I have
> > decided that the best way to do this is to roll my own HTTP server.
> > Before I reinvent the wheel, I would like to check if anyone has
> > written a > 100 line server that I might use.
>
> This might be a stupid question but why not use something like Zope (or
> perhaps Django) and build the web applications around that platform?
>
> jem
> --
> Jan Erik Moström, www.mostrom.pp.se
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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 23.03.01 14:25 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 15:42:23 +0200)
From: Jan Erik Moström <
Jeffrey Rosen <<email address removed>> 2005-08-02 13:57:

> I would like to see Zope

I wouldn't be suprised if it was ready-made modules in Zope but I know too
little to say anything for sure. It just seems like inventing the same thing
yet another time.
jem

Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 15:31 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:31:51 -0600)
From: Joseph J. Strout
What's wrong with the web server described at
<http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?
You said you wanted one that's more than 100 lines, which this one is
not, but perhaps it can serve as a good starting point at least.

Best,
- Joe

Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 13:24 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:24:59 +0200)
From: Stefan Pantke

Am 02.08.2005 um 13:57 schrieb Jeffrey Rosen:

> Because I am extremeley experienced in REALbasic and have never heard
> of Zope or Django.
>
> I doubt that I will be able to be more productive than I am in
> REALbasic. In just an hour of work, I have already created an
> automated PayPal registration emailer and am almost done with my web
> AIM client.
>
> I would like to see Zope or Django do that. (Of course, I can't judge
> them - I don't even see Django on Google.)

Have a look at

http://www.webedition.de/en/

Costs 199 EURO, but is very, very good. I definitely prefer
WebEdition over Zope, Typo3 and such.

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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 17:48 (Tue, 02 Aug 2005 18:48:51 +0200)
From: Emile Schwarz
Hi Joe,

sometimes I do not see what is in front of my eyes, so pardon me if this is the
case.

Otherwise, where is the less than 100 lines code ?
[URL ?]

TIA,

Emile

<email address removed> wrote:
> Subject: Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
> From: "Joseph J. Strout" <<email address removed>>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 08:31:51 -0600
>
> What's wrong with the web server described at
> <http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?
> You said you wanted one that's more than 100 lines, which this one is
> not, but perhaps it can serve as a good starting point at least.

PS: this is due to the time that ellapsed, but the article talks about REALbasic
5.5; the link to get the demo is bad:

<http://www.realsoftware.com/download/demo>

but redirected to:

<http://www.realsoftware.com/download/mac/>

and from there people can download the Mac OS X version or click in the Linux
or|and Windows link(s).

Also: when the page 1 of the article appears, click in the 'print' link to get
the... printable _complete on one page_ article. Then you can produce a pdf
(using PDFCreator on Windows, what on Linux ?)...

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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 17:54 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:54:02 -0600)
From: Joseph J. Strout
At 6:48 PM +0200 8/2/05, Emile Schwarz wrote:

>sometimes I do not see what is in front of my eyes, so pardon me if
>this is the case.
>
>Otherwise, where is the less than 100 lines code ?
>[URL ?]

I gave the URL here:

>>What's wrong with the web server described at
>><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?

It takes you step by step through writing the necessary lines.

>PS: this is due to the time that ellapsed, but the article talks
>about REALbasic 5.5; the link to get the demo is bad:
>
><http://www.realsoftware.com/download/demo>

Well, such is life on the web, I think -- we don't control that
article, so we can't update it as our web site changes.

Best,
- Joe

Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 02.08.05 22:08 (Tue, 2 Aug 2005 14:08:22 -0700)
From: Jeffrey Rosen
I tried that (hence the > 100 lines comment) and have been working on
it for a while. While it is a good start, it doesn't really do
anything besides look at the requested URL and serve it up.

I am working on Arbee now and that is looking very promising. Most
notably, it supports POST, which is what I really needed.

On 8/2/05, Joseph J. Strout <<email address removed>> wrote:
> At 6:48 PM +0200 8/2/05, Emile Schwarz wrote:
>
> >sometimes I do not see what is in front of my eyes, so pardon me if
> >this is the case.
> >
> >Otherwise, where is the less than 100 lines code ?
> >[URL ?]
>
> I gave the URL here:
>
> >>What's wrong with the web server described at
> >><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?
>
> It takes you step by step through writing the necessary lines.
>
> >PS: this is due to the time that ellapsed, but the article talks
> >about REALbasic 5.5; the link to get the demo is bad:
> >
> ><http://www.realsoftware.com/download/demo>
>
> Well, such is life on the web, I think -- we don't control that
> article, so we can't update it as our web site changes.
>
> Best,
> - Joe
>
> --
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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 03.08.05 08:05 (Wed, 03 Aug 2005 09:05:45 +0200)
From: Emile Schwarz
I was there, done (probably wrong) that and it does not works.

That was the reason why I was asking :(

I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE ARTICLE IS FINE (but I still have to read it back two or
three times to really understand it.)

TIA,

Emile

<email address removed> wrote:
> Subject: Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
> From: "Joseph J. Strout" <<email address removed>>
> Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 10:54:02 -0600
>
> At 6:48 PM +0200 8/2/05, Emile Schwarz wrote:
>
>
>>>sometimes I do not see what is in front of my eyes, so pardon me if
>>>this is the case.
>>>
>>>Otherwise, where is the less than 100 lines code ?
>>>[URL ?]
>
>
> I gave the URL here:
>
>
>>>>>What's wrong with the web server described at
>>>>><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?
>
>
> It takes you step by step through writing the necessary lines.
>
>
>>>PS: this is due to the time that ellapsed, but the article talks
>>>about REALbasic 5.5; the link to get the demo is bad:
>>>
>>><http://www.realsoftware.com/download/demo>
>
>
> Well, such is life on the web, I think -- we don't control that
> article, so we can't update it as our web site changes.
Youy’re correct.

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Re: robust HTTP server in RB?
Date: 03.08.05 17:53 (Wed, 3 Aug 2005 09:53:32 -0700 (PDT))
From: P. Sanders

> >>>>>What's wrong with the web server described at
>
>>>>><http://www.macdevcenter.com/pub/a/mac/2004/11/19/realbasic.html>?
> >
> >
> > It takes you step by step through writing the necessary lines.

--- Emile Schwarz <<email address removed>> wrote:

> I was there, done (probably wrong) that and it does not works.
>
> That was the reason why I was asking :(
>
> I HAVE TO SAY THAT THE ARTICLE IS FINE (but I still have to read it
> back two or
> three times to really understand it.)
>
> TIA,
>
> Emile
>

I followed the article yesterday to try out 2005r2 and it was no
problem to get it to work - the mistakes that I made along the way (it
didnt compile first try...) were ultimately all my own fault. (I also
wanted to understand better how the RB network sockets are intended to
be used)

The article could have been a little more explicit at times, but it is
correct and current.

-P


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