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   Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Vaughn Cordero
    Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Carlo Rubini
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Christian Schmitz
    Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Carlo Rubini
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Christian Schmitz
    Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Carlo Rubini
    USD based cross-rates   -   Carlo Rubini
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Christian Schmitz
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Jon Ogden
    Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Aaron Andrew Hunt
    Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Carlo Rubini
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   scott
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Greg O'Lone
     Re: USD based cross-rates   -   Metsis

Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 02.08.11 17:43 (Tue, 2 Aug 2011 22:43:09 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
Aaron Andrew Hunt <<email address removed>> said:

> I've used this php tool, which works, is customizable and free.
>
> http://apptools.com/phptools/xml/currency/


Great. After trying many many many sites I was almost without hope.

Thank you very much,

Carlo

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 17:43 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:43:46 -0400)
From: Vaughn Cordero
Hi Carlo

Try coinmill.com ; they don't seem to have a non-commercial clause, just attribution.

Nothing 'clean' like XML, seems youll just have to use HTML and parse through it.

Vaughn

On Sunday, July 31, 2011 at 11:17 AM, <email address removed> wrote:

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> From: Carlo Rubini <<email address removed> (mailto:<email address removed>)>
> Subject: Re: USD based cross-rates
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> Christian Schmitz <<email address removed> (mailto:<email address removed>)>said
>
> > Am 31.07.2011 um 05:12 schrieb Carlo Rubini:
> >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is
> > > retrieved from the NET;...
> >
> > Why not have a cgi script on your website which delivers the value?
> >
> > This way you are flexible to use whatever service you like.
> > e.g. query the values once an hour from some website and deliver cached results.
>
> Because I dont know how to make a cgi script (shame!).
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlo
>

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 14:26 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 19:26:32 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
But even using a cgi script, wouldnt I still be going against their veto?

Christian Schmitz <<email address removed>>said

> Am 31.07.2011 um 05:12 schrieb Carlo Rubini:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is
> > retrieved from the NET;...
>
> Why not have a cgi script on your website which delivers the value?
>
> This way you are flexible to use whatever service you like.
> e.g. query the values once an hour from some website and deliver cached results.

Because I dont know how to make a cgi script (shame!).



Carlo

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 16:17 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:17:37 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 31.07.2011 um 15:26 schrieb Carlo Rubini:

> But even using a cgi script, wouldnt I still be going against their veto?

Well, with an extra script on his own server, he can easily switch between services.

And of course it makes a difference if he queries values from public websites with his app 10000 times a day compared to a script on website which updates from somewhere once a day.

Greetings
Christian

Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 12:35 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 17:35:45 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
Christian Schmitz <<email address removed>>said

> Am 31.07.2011 um 05:12 schrieb Carlo Rubini:
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is
> > retrieved from the NET;...
>
> Why not have a cgi script on your website which delivers the value?
>
> This way you are flexible to use whatever service you like.
> e.g. query the values once an hour from some website and deliver cached results.

Because I dont know how to make a cgi script (shame!).

Thanks,

Carlo

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 13:01 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 14:01:52 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 31.07.2011 um 13:35 schrieb Carlo Rubini:

>
> Because I dont know how to make a cgi script (shame!).

PHP, python or ruby is also fine.

Greetings
Christian

Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 07:50 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:50:58 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
Jon Ogden <<email address removed>> said:

> Have you tried xe.com:
>
> http://www.xe.com/pca/input.cgi
>
> Used them quite a bit 11 years ago when planning my honeymoon! They are still
> around.

Yes: permission granted only for non-commercial purposes.

Thanks for answering,

Carlo

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USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 04:12 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 09:12:48 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
Hello,

I have an app that I would like to submit to MAS as paid application.

The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is retrieved from the NET; i.e. I access the site thru a socket, parse its data and then perform all the necssary operations, for instance 7.35 USD = xxx EURO.

I googled for sites showing cross-rates, but I cant find one that would allow to use its data for commercial applications.

The only one I found shows EURO based cross-rates. But I need also one showing USD based cross-rates.

For instance, the following sites do give cross-rates, but permission is granted only for personal use:

http://fxtop.com/en/cnvhisto.php3
http://www.x-rates.com
http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/supplement.html
http://markets.ft.com/ft/markets/currencies.asp

Anybody knows of any such site that offers data without any restriction? (apart for acknowledgement)

Thanks,

Carlo

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 11:30 (Sun, 31 Jul 2011 12:30:02 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 31.07.2011 um 05:12 schrieb Carlo Rubini:

> Hello,
>
> The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is retrieved from the NET;...

Why not have a cgi script on your website which delivers the value?

This way you are flexible to use whatever service you like.
e.g. query the values once an hour from some website and deliver cached results.

Greetings
Christian

Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 31.07.11 05:09 (Sat, 30 Jul 2011 23:09:30 -0500)
From: Jon Ogden
Have you tried xe.com:

http://www.xe.com/pca/input.cgi

Used them quite a bit 11 years ago when planning my honeymoon! They are still around.

Jon

On Jul 30, 2011, at 10:12 PM, Carlo Rubini wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I have an app that I would like to submit to MAS as paid application.
>
> The app allows the user to make operations based on currencies whose value is retrieved from the NET; i.e. I access the site thru a socket, parse its data and then perform all the necssary operations, for instance 7.35 USD = xxx EURO.
>
> I googled for sites showing cross-rates, but I cant find one that would allow to use its data for commercial applications.
>
> The only one I found shows EURO based cross-rates. But I need also one showing USD based cross-rates.
>
> For instance, the following sites do give cross-rates, but permission is granted only for personal use:
>
> http://fxtop.com/en/cnvhisto.php3
> http://www.x-rates.com
> http://fx.sauder.ubc.ca/supplement.html
> http://markets.ft.com/ft/markets/currencies.asp
>
> Anybody knows of any such site that offers data without any restriction? (apart for acknowledgement)
>
> Thanks,
>
> Carlo
>
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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 01.08.11 20:59 (Mon, 1 Aug 2011 15:59:37 -0400)
From: Aaron Andrew Hunt
I've used this php tool, which works, is customizable and free.

http://apptools.com/phptools/xml/currency/

Cheers,
Aaron

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 01.08.11 08:15 (Mon, 1 Aug 2011 13:15:05 +0600)
From: Carlo Rubini
Vaughn Cordero <<email address removed>> said:

> Hi Carlo
>
> Try coinmill.com ; they don't seem to have a non-commercial clause, just attribution.
>
> Nothing 'clean' like XML, seems youll just have to use HTML and parse through it.

I think it would be all right as far as vetos, but it is not the kind of service I require.

What I need is a list of currencies with their USD-based rates.

Thanks,

Carlo

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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 01.08.11 13:43 (Mon, 1 Aug 2011 08:43:20 -0400)
From: scott
Most (if not all) Google APIs can not be used in Commercial software
without buying a license from them. Depending on the cost of the
software you writing, it might not be worth it to buy the license. I
love google's services/api just as much as anyone else. But I
strongly recommend that you check out their licensing/EULA stuff
before using it.

For this particular service I dont know if they want a commercial
license or not.

Scott

On Mon, Aug 1, 2011 at 8:38 AM, Greg O'Lone <<email address removed>> wrote:
> Actually, Google apparently has a service that returns JSON data. Here's a link showing how to access it (it returns JSON, which you can load into the new JSONItem class):
>
> http://www.techmug.com/ajax-currency-converter-with-google-api/
>
> Greg O'Lone
> Software Engineer
> Real Software, Inc.
>
> On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Metsis wrote:
>
>> 1.8.2011 10.15, Carlo Rubini kirjoitti:
>>> What I need is a list of currencies with their USD-based rates.
>>
>> How about Google (just type in the search box "1 USD to <currency code>") ? I read their terms of service (the one you get in the first result), and they say that the rate is provided by a third party, for info only and they are not bound by it by any means.
>>
>> While Google surely can manage thousands of currency rate queries a day, I agree you're better off with doing some buffering by yourself. Should Google change the page layout, it's easier to change your single parser app than to get an update to all users. Besides by buffering you can keep yourself more likely under the allmighty radar of Google :-)
>>
>> Metsis
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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 01.08.11 13:38 (Mon, 1 Aug 2011 08:38:21 -0400)
From: Greg O'Lone
Actually, Google apparently has a service that returns JSON data. Here's a link showing how to access it (it returns JSON, which you can load into the new JSONItem class):

http://www.techmug.com/ajax-currency-converter-with-google-api/

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On Aug 1, 2011, at 5:12 AM, Metsis wrote:

> 1.8.2011 10.15, Carlo Rubini kirjoitti:
>> What I need is a list of currencies with their USD-based rates.
>
> How about Google (just type in the search box "1 USD to <currency code>") ? I read their terms of service (the one you get in the first result), and they say that the rate is provided by a third party, for info only and they are not bound by it by any means.
>
> While Google surely can manage thousands of currency rate queries a day, I agree you're better off with doing some buffering by yourself. Should Google change the page layout, it's easier to change your single parser app than to get an update to all users. Besides by buffering you can keep yourself more likely under the allmighty radar of Google :-)
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Re: USD based cross-rates
Date: 01.08.11 10:12 (Mon, 01 Aug 2011 12:12:43 +0300)
From: Metsis
1.8.2011 10.15, Carlo Rubini kirjoitti:
> What I need is a list of currencies with their USD-based rates.

How about Google (just type in the search box "1 USD to <currency code>") ? I
read their terms of service (the one you get in the first result), and they say
that the rate is provided by a third party, for info only and they are not bound
by it by any means.

While Google surely can manage thousands of currency rate queries a day, I agree
you're better off with doing some buffering by yourself. Should Google change
the page layout, it's easier to change your single parser app than to get an
update to all users. Besides by buffering you can keep yourself more likely
under the allmighty radar of Google :-)

Metsis

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