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Re: [MBS] 9.3pr11   -   Garth Hjelte
  [MBS] Re: [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Ron Benditt
    [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Christian Schmitz
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Someone
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Christian Schmitz
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Tim Jones
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   James Sentman
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Sam DeVore
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Martin Baker
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Roland Stephan
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Garth Hjelte
      [MBS] Re: [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Chris Knight
      [MBS] [ANN] Monkeybread Software Announces Combine PDFs 5.1 for Mac OS X   -   Christian Schmitz
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Mark Franken
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   frael
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Jaap Cammeraat
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Eric Doolittle
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Kev
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Dennis Birch
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Sergio Tamborini
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   Tim Jones
     Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format   -   RPEHLM

[MBS] Re: [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 23:30 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:30:54 -0700)
From: Ron Benditt
On Apr 21, 2010, at 3:21 PM, <email address removed> wrote:

> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?

I'm using 2009r3 here. This version has the TextArea/TextField change in it already so your changes won't affect me. I'll be likely be moving on to 2010r2 when it comes out anyway.

Regards,

Ron Benditt
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[MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 17:49 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 18:49:46 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz
Hello,

Which REAL Studio version do you use?

At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.

Some people already complained about examples having errors.

Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.

Your comment on this?

Greetings
Christian

Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 25.04.10 13:28 (Sun, 25 Apr 2010 14:28:46 +0200)
From: Someone
Le 25 avr. 10 à 13:05, Christian Schmitz a écrit:

> But this table is 100% what you may need. For example if you develop
> only for Windows, you can still use 9.3 plug-ins for development
> with REAL Studio 2010. But on Mac OS X you need the new plug-ins to
> avoid crashes with the Cocoa classes.

I guess you meant "isn't 100% what you may need" ;-)
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 25.04.10 12:05 (Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:05:16 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 25.04.2010 um 01:17 schrieb Tim Jones:

> On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:00 PM, James Sentman wrote:
>
>> It would be nice to have a direct download link for the last compatible build of the plugins for the last couple of major revisions in RB so that if I do need to go back and compile old code without spending the time to bring it forward I can build a compatible environment without too much research and messing around.
>
> That's a very good idea - it would be nice to be able to select a version of RB/RS and then have links to the last version of the plugins that are compatible with that IDE/Compiler version.

Well, I keep a table here:
http://www.monkeybreadsoftware.de/realbasic/rbversion.shtml

But this table is 100% what you may need. For example if you develop only for Windows, you can still use 9.3 plug-ins for development with REAL Studio 2010. But on Mac OS X you need the new plug-ins to avoid crashes with the Cocoa classes.

Greetings
Christian

Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 25.04.10 00:17 (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 16:17:21 -0700)
From: Tim Jones
On Apr 24, 2010, at 4:00 PM, James Sentman wrote:

> It would be nice to have a direct download link for the last compatible build of the plugins for the last couple of major revisions in RB so that if I do need to go back and compile old code without spending the time to bring it forward I can build a compatible environment without too much research and messing around.

That's a very good idea - it would be nice to be able to select a version of RB/RS and then have links to the last version of the plugins that are compatible with that IDE/Compiler version.

Tim

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 25.04.10 00:00 (Sat, 24 Apr 2010 19:00:34 -0400)
From: James Sentman

On Apr 21, 2010, at 12:49 PM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.

I tend to stay current, moving to 2010 will not cause me any issues. It would be nice to have a direct download link for the last compatible build of the plugins for the last couple of major revisions in RB so that if I do need to go back and compile old code without spending the time to bring it forward I can build a compatible environment without too much research and messing around.

Thanks,
James

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 22.04.10 15:37 (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:37:43 -0700)
From: Sam DeVore
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?

I have all but 4 of my client projects to 2010r1, and I expect that all but 2 of those will be migrated in the next month. 2 are in support mode and are likely to stay in pre 2009 IDE as they are essentially end of lifed.

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 22.04.10 11:08 (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 11:08:47 +0100)
From: Martin Baker
2010r1 here.

It's a tricky question. I think you're probably going to have to offer separate downloads for a while but I would freeze the pre-2010 examples and only add new examples to the 2010 (or later) version.

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On 21 Apr 2010, at 17:49, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>
> --
> Read our blog about news on our plugins:
>
> http://www.mbsplugins.de/
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 22.04.10 07:55 (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:55:53 +0200)
From: Roland Stephan
I'm on Studio too.

Regards
Roland

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 23:32 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:32:41 -0500)
From: Garth Hjelte
At 04:24 PM 4/21/2010, you wrote:

>2007r5
>
>no need to change... no bugs or easy to avoid
>and Windows exec with the DLL embedded

Same here. Move the examples up, but leave the last older versions
up. When someone moves up to RB2010, they likely will update their
MBS as well.

Garth Hjelte
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[MBS] Re: [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 22.04.10 07:11 (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 07:11:40 +0100)
From: Chris Knight
I'd prefer it if all the MBS stuff was in RS 2010 - starting with the most
problematic of the differences. Being a newbie I am not sure which are
changes introduced since the last version but when I run older examples
(from anywhere, not just MBS), it's easy enough to convert EditFields but
less obvious what to do when some other class changes are at issue,
especially when the LR isn't very forthcoming with no examples of its own.

I imagine that whenever Cocoa for RS really arrives, there will be a big
effort required to get everything ready for that,so where you best put your
effort, I am not sure

Chris


>
> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we
> see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see
> missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 23:21 (Thu, 22 Apr 2010 08:21:18 +1000)
From: Mark Franken
RB2009r4. Should be updating to RB2010 in a couple of months.

Mark

On 22/04/2010, at 2:49 AM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 22:24 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:24:25 +0200)
From: frael

2007r5

no need to change... no bugs or easy to avoid
and Windows exec with the DLL embedded

Frael

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Le 21 avr. 10 à 18:49, Christian Schmitz a écrit :

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the
> changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/
> PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will
> see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>
> --
> Read our blog about news on our plugins:
>
> http://www.mbsplugins.de/
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 22:07 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:07:22 +0200)
From: Jaap Cammeraat
2010r1

Op 21 apr 2010, om 18:49 heeft Christian Schmitz het volgende geschreven:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 19:03 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 13:03:26 -0500)
From: Eric Doolittle
Rb2010 as well

On Apr 21, 2010, at 11:49 AM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>
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>
> http://www.mbsplugins.de/
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 18:57 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 17:57:39 +0000 (GMT))
From: Kev
Hi Christian.

Still on an older version until a few things have been addressed in REAL Studio.

Regards,
Kev.

--- On Wed, 21/4/10, Christian Schmitz <<email address removed>> wrote:

> From: Christian Schmitz <<email address removed>>
> Subject: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
> To: "MBS REALbasic Plugin List" <<email address removed>>
> Date: Wednesday, 21 April, 2010, 17:49
> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of
> the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs.
> TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having
> errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB
> versions will see missing controls where the editfields
> should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian


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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 18:46 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:46:07 -0700)
From: Dennis Birch
On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Which REAL Studio version do you use?

2009 R2.1.

I hope to be able to move up to 2010 x at some point, but in the meantime I'd hate to lose compatibility of the example projects. It seems to me it should be safe to continue using EditFields until RS no longer supports them. And even then it might be nice to have access to an archived set of examples with EditFields instead of the replacement classes.

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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 18:44 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:44:22 +0200)
From: Sergio Tamborini
RealStudio 2010 r1 for me

Il giorno 21/apr/2010, alle ore 18.49, Christian Schmitz ha scritto:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>
> --
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>
> http://www.mbsplugins.de/
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 18:38 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 10:38:54 -0700)
From: Tim Jones
I have already moved to Studio. I do keep a 2007r1 around for a Linux command line app (but that may move forward with the release of 10r2).

The things is that users of prior IDe versions should still be able to use the examples in the existing versions of the plugins.

Tim

On Apr 21, 2010, at 9:49 AM, Christian Schmitz wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>
> --
> Read our blog about news on our plugins:
>
> http://www.mbsplugins.de/
>
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Re: [MBS] [ANN] Changes in REAL Studio Project Format
Date: 21.04.10 18:19 (Wed, 21 Apr 2010 19:19:34 +0200)
From: RPEHLM
Moving to 2010 is OK with me. I don't have any legacy code to support.
Barely have any code at all!

Robin

Christian Schmitz wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Which REAL Studio version do you use?
>
> At some point I'll need to move to REAL Studio 2010. One of the changes we see is the trouble with Editfield vs. TextArea/TextField/PasswordField.
>
> Some people already complained about examples having errors.
>
> Once I move projects to RB 2010, people with older RB versions will see missing controls where the editfields should be.
>
> Your comment on this?
>
> Greetings
> Christian
>



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