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  [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Tim Jones
    Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Christian Schmitz
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Marnaud
    Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud
     Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Obleo Beck
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Christian Schmitz
    Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Christian Schmitz
    Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud
   Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Tim Jones
    Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins   -   Jean-Luc Arnaud

[MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 29.04.14 15:17 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014 16:17:01 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
I have an issue between MBS Xojo Cocoa Plugin.xojo_plugin and another
MBS plugin, resulting in a message when launching Xojo 2014r1.1:

There are plugins loaded that have duplicate classes.

All duplicate classes begin with NS: NSTextFieldCellMBS,
NSActionCellMBS, ...

I'm using MBS plugins 14.2pr2.

What plugin is conflicting with the Cocoa one?

TIA

Jean-Luc

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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 17:20 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:20:25 -0700)
From: Tim Jones
On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>> wrote:

> Points are:
> - Memory occupation,

How tight is your system on memory? If you’ve got 2GB or more, there’s no noticeable affect.

> - Time consuming (when launching Xojo, when compiling),

Yes and no. Yes when opening Xojo/RS, but no after the first compile is executed.

> - Size of the compiled App,

Definitely not. If your project doesn’t use a plugin, it’s not included in the built app.

> - Auto-completion with hundred lines in the popup,

You get autocompletion for MBS? I don’t.

Tim

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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 05.05.14 09:07 (Mon, 05 May 2014 10:07:31 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
Thanks to all replyers.

I just was wondering if MBS plugins (and others) could have effects on
Memory and App size.
For the increased time when launching Xojo, it was obvious.

It's now obvious, too, that there is no problem with memory or app size.
Great!!!

Replying to Tim, Yes, I get autocompletion for (some or all?) MBS
entries. I sent you (directly on your address) a screenshot showing this.

Jean-Luc

Le 30/04/2014 18:20, Tim Jones a écrit :
> On Apr 30, 2014, at 3:47 AM, Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>> wrote:
>
>> Points are:
>> - Memory occupation,
> How tight is your system on memory? If you’ve got 2GB or more, there’s no noticeable affect.
>
>> - Time consuming (when launching Xojo, when compiling),
> Yes and no. Yes when opening Xojo/RS, but no after the first compile is executed.
>
>> - Size of the compiled App,
> Definitely not. If your project doesn’t use a plugin, it’s not included in the built app.
>
>> - Auto-completion with hundred lines in the popup,
> You get autocompletion for MBS? I don’t.
>
> Tim
>
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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 11:51 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:51:53 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 30.04.2014 um 12:47 schrieb Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>>:

> - Size of the compiled App,

That's simply not true.

Sincerely
Christian

Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 11:28 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:28:01 +0200)
From: Marnaud
Le 30 avr. 2014 à 10:30, Jean-Luc Arnaud a écrit:

> Let me precise that all four Cocoa plugins should be installed together,
> and now we know MacOSXCG is mandatory too.

It's easy to get in trouble when one plugin file is missing. I don't see the point of not copying/installing all plugin files either (it doesn't take so much disk space).
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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 11:47 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 12:47:46 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
Points are:
- Memory occupation,
- Time consuming (when launching Xojo, when compiling),
- Size of the compiled App,
- Auto-completion with hundred lines in the popup,

etc...

Does anyone have knowledge on the 3 first points?

Jean-Luc

Le 30/04/2014 12:28, Marnaud a écrit :
> Le 30 avr. 2014 à 10:30, Jean-Luc Arnaud a écrit:
>
>> Let me precise that all four Cocoa plugins should be installed together,
>> and now we know MacOSXCG is mandatory too.
> It's easy to get in trouble when one plugin file is missing. I don't see the point of not copying/installing all plugin files either (it doesn't take so much disk space).
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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 13:31 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 07:31:50 -0500)
From: Obleo Beck
How is the size of the compiled app any bigger? I was under the assumption that it only compiled the plugin parts that is used in your code.

Regards,
Obleo Beck

> On Apr 30, 2014, at 5:47 AM, Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>> wrote:
>
> Points are:
> - Memory occupation,
> - Time consuming (when launching Xojo, when compiling),
> - Size of the compiled App,
> - Auto-completion with hundred lines in the popup,
>
> etc...
>
> Does anyone have knowledge on the 3 first points?
>
> Jean-Luc
>
>
> Le 30/04/2014 12:28, Marnaud a écrit :
>> Le 30 avr. 2014 à 10:30, Jean-Luc Arnaud a écrit:
>>
>>> Let me precise that all four Cocoa plugins should be installed together,
>>> and now we know MacOSXCG is mandatory too.
>> It's easy to get in trouble when one plugin file is missing. I don't see the point of not copying/installing all plugin files either (it doesn't take so much disk space).
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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 09:24 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:24:41 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 30.04.2014 um 10:20 schrieb Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>>:

> Thanks for replying, Christian.
> And, in the message area of Xojo:
> NSBitmapImageRepMBS.Name Type mismatch error. Expected Variant,
> but got CGImageMBS

MacOSXCG plugin installed?

I thought I fixed the dependencies.

Sincerely
Christian

Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 09:30 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:30:53 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
No, it wasn't.
I installed it and no more error message!!!

Let me precise that all four Cocoa plugins should be installed together,
and now we know MacOSXCG is mandatory too.

Thanks a lot for this very fast reply.

Jean-Luc

Le 30/04/2014 10:24, Christian Schmitz a écrit :
> Am 30.04.2014 um 10:20 schrieb Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>>:
>
>> Thanks for replying, Christian.
>> And, in the message area of Xojo:
>> NSBitmapImageRepMBS.Name Type mismatch error. Expected Variant,
>> but got CGImageMBS
> MacOSXCG plugin installed?
>
> I thought I fixed the dependencies.
>
> Sincerely
> Christian
>

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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 29.04.14 19:07 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014 20:07:37 +0200)
From: Christian Schmitz

Am 29.04.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Tim Jones <tolistim@me.com>:

> I ran into something like this a few revs back. I fixed it by removing ALL of the MBS plugins and then recopying the 14.2pr2 plugins into the Xojo Plugins folder.

yes, sometimes we move things from one plugin to other.
So having plugin 1 from older version and plugin 2 from newer version will not work.

Sincerely
Christian

Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 09:20 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 10:20:49 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
Thanks for replying, Christian.

Nevertheless, all my MBS plugins are of the same version, that is, 14.2pr2.

In addition, I have another issue with the four Cocoa plugins (Cocoa,
CocoaBase, CocoaControls and CocoaExtra), where I always get an error
message about a missing class:

File: MBS Xojo CocoaBase Plugin
Location: NSBitmapImageRepMBS.Constructor
Code:

And, in the message area of Xojo:
NSBitmapImageRepMBS.Name Type mismatch error. Expected Variant,
but got CGImageMBS

Any idea?

Jean-Luc

Le 29/04/2014 20:07, Christian Schmitz a écrit :
> Am 29.04.2014 um 17:13 schrieb Tim Jones <tolistim@me.com>:
>
>> I ran into something like this a few revs back. I fixed it by removing ALL of the MBS plugins and then recopying the 14.2pr2 plugins into the Xojo Plugins folder.
> yes, sometimes we move things from one plugin to other.
> So having plugin 1 from older version and plugin 2 from newer version will not work.
>
> Sincerely
> Christian
>

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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 29.04.14 16:13 (Tue, 29 Apr 2014 08:13:14 -0700)
From: Tim Jones
I ran into something like this a few revs back. I fixed it by removing ALL of the MBS plugins and then recopying the 14.2pr2 plugins into the Xojo Plugins folder.

Tim

On Apr 29, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>> wrote:

> I have an issue between MBS Xojo Cocoa Plugin.xojo_plugin and another
> MBS plugin, resulting in a message when launching Xojo 2014r1.1:
>
> There are plugins loaded that have duplicate classes.
>
> All duplicate classes begin with NS: NSTextFieldCellMBS,
> NSActionCellMBS, ...
>
> I'm using MBS plugins 14.2pr2.
>
> What plugin is conflicting with the Cocoa one?
>
> TIA
>
> Jean-Luc
>
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Re: [MBS] Duplicate classes in MBS plugins
Date: 30.04.14 08:56 (Wed, 30 Apr 2014 09:56:45 +0200)
From: Jean-Luc Arnaud
Yes, I thought it could be something like that.
So, I did exactly what you're describing, unsuccesfully.
Finally, I deleted an alias of the MBS examples folder I had placed in
the plugins folder (just in order to reach quickly this folder), and the
issue has been fixed. Very strange....

Thanks for replying, Tim.

Jean-Luc

Le 29/04/2014 17:13, Tim Jones a écrit :
> I ran into something like this a few revs back. I fixed it by removing ALL of the MBS plugins and then recopying the 14.2pr2 plugins into the Xojo Plugins folder.
>
> Tim
>
> On Apr 29, 2014, at 7:17 AM, Jean-Luc Arnaud <<email address removed>> wrote:
>
>> I have an issue between MBS Xojo Cocoa Plugin.xojo_plugin and another
>> MBS plugin, resulting in a message when launching Xojo 2014r1.1:
>>
>> There are plugins loaded that have duplicate classes.
>>
>> All duplicate classes begin with NS: NSTextFieldCellMBS,
>> NSActionCellMBS, ...
>>
>> I'm using MBS plugins 14.2pr2.
>>
>> What plugin is conflicting with the Cocoa one?
>>
>> TIA
>>
>> Jean-Luc
>>
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